From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-12 01:06:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!212.74.64.35!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!cw-insnet-peer-00!cw-insnet-reader-00!not-for-mail From: "David Humphris" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 09:03:11 +0100 Organization: Cable & Wireless INS Customer Posting Message-ID: <9ijlnq$5or$1@reader-00.news.insnet.cw.net> References: <3B4B3432.5BAFE9E1@easystreet.com> <3B4B4BF9.12C1E8C@lmco.com> <3B4B613B.25659225@mediaone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: gauntlet-uk.aonix.co.uk X-Trace: reader-00.news.insnet.cw.net 994925115 5915 213.38.160.2 (12 Jul 2001 08:05:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@insnet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:05:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9855 Date: 2001-07-12T09:03:11+01:00 List-Id: DuckE wrote in message news:q_O27.328129$p33.6632851@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com... > "Ed Falis" wrote in message > news:3B4B613B.25659225@mediaone.net... > > As an ObjectAda user it is my opinion that the lack of success of Aonix' > windows product likely has little to do with wanting the support of 5-digit > development systems. > > Unless support means providing a usable debugger with the system. Until > version 7.1.2 the debugger was a bad joke. Still with 7.2 the debugger has > some problems (though few). > > When a debugger doesn't allow you to set breakpoints or exammine the content > of arrays of data, or just as bad, incorrectly displays data, it is very > frustrating. Frustrating enough to move to a different development > environment. Sometimes frustrating enough to move to a different > programming language that provides a debugging enviroment that works. > > In order for ObjectAda to succeed it must be a solid product, and it must > continue to grow and improve. Unfortunately, about the same time what I > believe is the first viable version of the product was delivered (OA 7.2) > Aonix apparently decided that it was not a product worth the significant > continued investment to to improve. This is not the case. Aonix continues to take the Ada products, including ObjectAda for Windows, forward with new versions. In fact a new version of ObjectAda for Windows (7.2.1) is due for release in a couple of months time. One of the focuses of this product is to make improvements in the debugger robustness and functionality. David Humphris Aonix > SteveD