From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,be23df8e7e275d73 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-11 10:12:44 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: "is ada dead?" A challenge for all of us? Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:39:09 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ihvff$l7i$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <0zS27.187213$DG1.31590366@news1.rdc1.mi.home.com> <3B4C65F5.B304D12A@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 994869551 21746 136.170.200.133 (11 Jul 2001 16:39:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Jul 2001 16:39:11 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9808 Date: 2001-07-11T16:39:11+00:00 List-Id: I've got some version of EMACS here that I use on occasion when I'm on the Sun side of things. I don't know what inspires such loyalty. It looks basically like a thousand other editors I've seen except that it has more of a VI flavor to it. I don't see any wonderful, spiffy features jumping up at me that make me say "Hey! This is different!" In fairness, I don't use it extensively and I've not studied whatever help is available for it in any detail. I also do not have an "Ada Mode" for it, so I don't know if this suddenly changes things dramatically. AFAIK, it doesn't do many of the things I regularly see with CodeWright or the MSVC++ environment. It looks basically like an editor - and that's it. If all I am getting is an editor - I'd rather have TPU - maybe LSE (but I found it painful when it was trying to "help" me.) or TPU in EDT mode. I suppose I'm asking to be told "RTFM" and "You're not doing it right!" but if all the gold lies burried that deep, I'd blame the tool for that - not me. If what it has is so spiffy, howcum it isn't immediately visible? MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "chris.danx" wrote in message news:pK_27.27350$B56.4717960@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com... > > > Could you define State Of The Art IDE for me please? > > > > > > A while back I had the idea for an IDE that could handle different > compilers, > > > and didn't need things on the PATH. Anyway, I didn't get very far, but > recently > > > I've been looking at the idea again, possibly using GWindows, and I'm > looking > > > for ideas. > > > > > > I was thinking of an IDE for Windows with some of the following > > > > > > - Syntax Highlighting > > > - Project Management facilities > > > - Code Completion (good for long package structures like x.y.a.b.c ?) > > > - Possibility an Object browser > > > - Ada Aware > > > - Non Specific Compiler support > > > - and others > > > > > > What other features would you like to see? What features would you not like > to > > > see? > > > > What's funny is that Emacs with the Ada-mode (and the other modes with > > which it is bundled) already provides most of these features, just...in > > the "Emacs idiom". > > > > I found that hard to adjust to, and the mappings difficult to learn. That's why > I don't use Emacs except in rare cases. I guess it's just a matter of personal > preference. > > Chris Campbell >