From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-10 14:41:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!colt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!news-hub.cableinet.net!blueyonder!psiuk-p2!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Death by analogy Part 2 (was Re: is ada dead?) Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 16:53:35 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ifq0g$r63$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3B4B3432.5BAFE9E1@easystreet.com> <3B4B4BF9.12C1E8C@lmco.com> <3B4B6811.A27C32D1@easystreet.com> <3B4B68D9.1999919F@mediaone.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 994798416 27843 136.170.200.133 (10 Jul 2001 20:53:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Jul 2001 20:53:36 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9741 Date: 2001-07-10T20:53:36+00:00 List-Id: In the end, all this stuff is being done by fallible human beings who are going to do dumb things no matter what language you give them. (It probably has something to do with the Tower of Babel.) Ada is going to help reduce some of the truly boneheaded things programmers do when they program, but it isn't going to stop the more diabolically clever stupidities. We need to remember that we can't hold Ada up as a panacea or expectations will be unreasonably high. Saying that it is going to *help* you get to good code is true and valuable enough. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Ed Falis" wrote in message news:3B4B68D9.1999919F@mediaone.net... > > Reminds me of the time ;-) > > ... when we had a fire to put out with a customer because their database > system was killing the compiler. Took a look at the thing, which had > gratuitous, nearly recursive, instantiation of generics. Asked the > customer where they got that code. "Oh, it was something we got out of one > of the repositories". "Talked to the author"? "I'll check". > > Turns out that the code that got put into this system was designed by the > author as a compiler stress test for generics. Turning a layer or two of > instantiation inside out fixed the problem. > > Who was saying something about management vs language? >