From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-09 08:31:37 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!psinet-eu-nl!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:45:12 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9icg1p$kpi$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3B475678.C582735D@worldnet.att.net> <3b478165_3@news3.prserv.net> <3b48d207_1@news3.prserv.net> <3B490751.38523577@worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 994689913 21298 136.170.200.133 (9 Jul 2001 14:45:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jul 2001 14:45:13 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9678 Date: 2001-07-09T14:45:13+00:00 List-Id: That's rather presuming that all business decisions are made on some sort of rational basis. Figure that languages develop constituencies - Java got a stron constituency from a lot of C/C++ programmers who found it to have advantages, but wasn't too far from what they were used to. They had some help from the marketing guys who sold them on how "cool" it was. The poor sap who manages the organization has grown far from being able to keep up with technical innovations, etc., and has to trust his staff to tell him what is the "right" decision WRT languages. His techno-dweebs say "Java is the hip thing!" and he's got to believe them, so migration is made that way. IMHO, if we want to sell Ada, it has to be from that grass-roots level. Get the programers in the trenches using it in some capacity and deciding that they like it & it will start to percolate up to the "business decision" level. Key to that is having the kinds of development tools that are found for C++, Java, et alia. If a development kit was bundled up and put on bookshelves in Frye's or CompUSA, etc. that might go a long way to increasing awareness in the right crowd. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "James Rogers" wrote in message news:3B490751.38523577@worldnet.att.net... > > > This is all true. At some point someone decided to take the risk to > switch to Java. That decision must have incurred all the financial > and technical risks detailed above. Why was that risk justified when > switching to Ada is not?