From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-09 02:15:05 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!not-for-mail From: "Bobby D. Bryant" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: Mon, 09 Jul 2001 03:05:04 +0600 Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas Message-ID: <9ibs7t$mim$1@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu> References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> <3b47806a_4@news3.prserv.net> <877kxianb2.fsf@deneb.enyo.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-7-12.ots.utexas.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: geraldo.cc.utexas.edu 994669629 23126 128.83.204.108 (9 Jul 2001 09:07:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cc.utexas.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Jul 2001 09:07:09 GMT User-Agent: Pan/0.9.7 (Unix) X-No-Productlinks: Yes Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9661 Date: 2001-07-09T09:07:09+00:00 List-Id: In article <877kxianb2.fsf@deneb.enyo.de>, "Florian Weimer" wrote: > I would expect that anyone with a CS degree can learn programming in > any language in a few weeks. You don't even need a CS degree. I formerly worked at a big company that tried moving people into IT to keep from having to lay them off while hiring new IT staff at the same time. What was immediately visible to me (if not to management) is that almost anyone can "learn" a language well enough to write a line of code that will compile. The bug jump is from there to being able to write a program that actually works right. Languages are ephemeral. If I were designing a CS curriculum I would require the students to use a different language every semester: partly so they would be flexible when they graduated and got a job in the Real World, partly so they wouldn't develop the One True Language mentality that you see so often, and partly so they would learn to see beyond the syntax to the underlying universals. Bobby Bryant Austin, Texas