From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,4b06f8f15f01a568 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,9a0ff0bffdf63657 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public From: "Dan Higdon" Subject: Re: Software landmines (loops) Date: 1998/09/02 Message-ID: <9hdH1.464$08.176350@news.giganews.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 387152037 References: <902934874.2099.0.nnrp-10.c246a717@news.demon.co.uk> <6r1glm$bvh$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6r9f8h$jtm$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6renh8$ga7$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rf59b$2ud$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <6rfra4$rul$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> <35DBDD24.D003404D@calfp.co.uk> <6sbuod$fra$1@hirame.wwa.com> <35f51e53.48044143@ <904556531.666222@miso.it.uq.edu.au> <6sgror$je8$3@news.indigo.ie> <6sh3qn$9p2$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6simjo$jnh$1@hirame.wwa.com> <6sjk3p$4tc$1@hirame.wwa.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Trace: sv1-Hew7Lc7B76lsrw2t077YwvWMBXTE/SIo+jsvXN1U21obSecnSN2nLJRLL9u9YcFKILEbcb5vGmVElxV!7JFQC/nrcskI NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1998 10:14:13 CDT Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada Date: 1998-09-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert Martin wrote in message <6sjk3p$4tc$1@hirame.wwa.com>... >Consider: > > do { > Get(N); > if (N) > > } while (N); > >Structured programming allows the loop condition to be either at the top or >the bottom. You just rolled the loop around - you're still testing the condition twice, you just made the *test* redundant. Having a single entry/exit point is good. Forcing the exit point to the top or bottom of the construct is artificial, IMHO. There are many cases (and this is a particularly good one) where the test to exit does not naturally occur at either the top or bottom of the loop, but midway through it. As an aside, a valid (IMHO) Eiffel extension would be to allow loops a little more freedom (yeah, I know, "everyone's a language designer" :-): -- standard from until loop end -- post test from loop until end -- in test from loop until else end Ignoring {in}variants for simplicity. (I suppose {in}variants would need to hold true at the "until".) so, our example becomes from loop Get (N) until not N else end ---------------------------------------- hdan@charybdis.com "Throwing fire at the sun"