From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-26 08:15:56 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!194.42.224.136!diablo.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!fr.clara.net!heighliner.fr.clara.net!newsfeed.planete.net!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:00:13 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ha81v$ps5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9gsvr7$7ho$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9folnd$1t8$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B1FE1FE.B49AE27F@noaa.gov> <9fotpi$4k6$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b24dc21$1@news.tce.com> <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3b366a2b$6$fuzhry$mr2ice@va.news.verio.net> <9h7guv$pt1$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B3879CE.AC550F8E@acm.org> <3B38975D.7BE3BDE7@easystreet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 993567615 26501 136.170.200.133 (26 Jun 2001 15:00:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 26 Jun 2001 15:00:15 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9119 comp.lang.java.programmer:78858 comp.lang.pl1:1130 comp.lang.vrml:3916 comp.lang.java.advocacy:22005 Date: 2001-06-26T15:00:15+00:00 List-Id: Just for the record, I did not make the statement below. Depending on just what sort of definition one has for "Personal Computer" - crediting IBM with its invention becomes either true or false. I believe it is accurate to say that IBM was the first to use the words "Personal Computer" in characterizing a computer that they manufactured (Here is sunny Boca Raton, BTW) in their advertising. However they were not the first to manufacture a small, inexpensive computer designed to be used primarily by a single individual. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Al Christians" wrote in message news:3B38975D.7BE3BDE7@easystreet.com... > "Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz" wrote: > > > > Marin David Condic wrote: > > > > > > Actually, IBM didn't invent the personal computer, although it did significantly > > alter the accepted architecture. IBM did push "personal computing" before there > > was a noticeable personal computer industry, with such products as CALL/360 and > > VSPC. > > And there was Joss, which ran on the Johnniac. That was an early step > toward end-user programming. > > Al