From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00, LOTS_OF_MONEY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1073c2,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid1073c2,public X-Google-Thread: 1158e3,c9f2b97a84c48976 X-Google-Attributes: gid1158e3,public X-Google-Thread: 101deb,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid101deb,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,23963231b5359f74 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-14 09:40:42 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!btnet-peer0!btnet!grolier!newsfeed.planete.net!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,ccomp.lang.clarion,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.lang.pl1,comp.lang.vrml,comp.lang.java.advocacy Subject: Re: Market pressures for more reliable software Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 12:11:09 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9ganmu$pj5$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3B25D5FB.15C9B240@dresdner-bank.com> <9g5as6$hbq$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g5ipg$roq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g614i$at4$1@magnum.mmm.com> <9g7r02$mni$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9g840k$qjt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <40gfitgrvd8cgu27r3vfib6eptmapb3pfl@4ax.com> <9g8lrk$37c$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 992535070 26213 136.170.200.133 (14 Jun 2001 16:11:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 Jun 2001 16:11:10 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8736 comp.lang.java.programmer:76365 comp.lang.pl1:1031 comp.lang.vrml:3800 comp.lang.java.advocacy:21110 Date: 2001-06-14T16:11:10+00:00 List-Id: I'll second that notion. For better or worse, people have come to associate the word "Free" as meaning "No $$$ Charged" when the word is connected to a product. FSF wants to redefine it more to mean "Unrestricted Usage" - which is *not* what most people think when they see the word. (Hence all the confusion over "Free" meaning I can download it and evaluate it and it costs me nothing but my time - not the case...) They probably should have used the word "Open" as in "Open Architecture" or "Open Standard" or "Open Source" - you can see inside and use it in any way you like - you might still have to *pay* for it, but once you do, there are no unreasonable restrictions on its use. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Ed Jensen" wrote in message news:tM4W6.14397$Dd5.3411079@ruti.visi.com... > In comp.lang.java.programmer Ted Dennison wrote: > : When I capitalize "Free", its to indicate that I'm talking about FSF-style "Free > : Software". > > Is anyone else annoyed that the FSF has decided to redefine the term > "free software" for marketing purposes? > > I think I'll scoop up some doggie poo, put it in a bowl, and place a > sticker on it that says "Rose Petals". > > -Ed, who thinks "Free Software" (GPL-style) is unethical.