From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,4871bb700d475964 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-07 07:05:50 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: an interested business-oriented programmer Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2001 09:42:22 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9fo0c0$nji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9flodm$6jb$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B1E7320.5E21BB4F@lmtas.lmco.com> <3B1EAAB4.5C86F53D@lmtas.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 991921344 24178 136.170.200.133 (7 Jun 2001 13:42:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Jun 2001 13:42:24 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8318 Date: 2001-06-07T13:42:24+00:00 List-Id: You don't need to extend Ada to get at the Win32api. You can get there through a set of packages distributed with a number of Ada compilers called Win32Ada.... I think Ted's comments had more to do with the notion that because Ada is rather stringently controlled in terms of a standard, etc. that "certain powers that be" would be unable to glom onto it, add their own extensions, through sheer size get thousands of users hooked on their "embraced and extended" "standard" and then totally control the market - thus bringing the Justice Department down on their head with anti-trust suits. Of course there is nothing stopping someone from using Ada syntax & adding things to it. Any Ada compiler can do that - and even still be validated, provided there is some mode in which it will interpret "standard" Ada95. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Gary Scott" wrote in message news:3B1EAAB4.5C86F53D@lmtas.lmco.com... > Obviously. What we're talking about is expanding Ada's market. I too > would prefer that extensions be kept to a minimum. I'm not familiar > enough with Ada to know that extensions would be required simply to > access the Win32 C-based API (I hadn't thought so). Those are the only > extensions that I'm aware of that MIGHT be required for some other > languages (at least until the next standard revision). > > If you want to get STUDENTS trained in Ada, then you've got to make it > easy for them. They're NOT going to accept a basic command line tool > set environment to any great extent (sure a few 'geeks' will). > > Ted Dennison wrote: > > > > In article <3B1E7320.5E21BB4F@lmtas.lmco.com>, Gary Scott says... > > >So why doesn't someone put together a "Visual Ada" product integrated > > >with Visual Studio and mass market it? They did it for Fortran... > > > > Perhaps because the Ada market's insistance on standard conformance prevents > > "someone" from embracing-and-extending the language to trap their users. > > > > --- > > T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html > > home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com