From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,af5bf4e3cf0c28b8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-06-04 07:05:22 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Cannot use NULL as identifier? Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 09:46:38 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9fg3fu$3lu$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9f2tuk$hbg$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <9f5n1i$iqq$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <3B17A028.A4A91C3F@brighton.ac.uk> <3B17AEA6.39A75C35@lmtas.lmco.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 991662398 3774 136.170.200.133 (4 Jun 2001 13:46:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Jun 2001 13:46:38 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8060 Date: 2001-06-04T13:46:38+00:00 List-Id: I would agree. As a trained Jovial programmer myself, I recall that the way I learned it was that I took a new job, someone dumped a manual & some code on me and I got busy. Getting the rudiments of a language down enough to write useful code or understand someone else's code just doesn't take long - even for a language as big & rich as Ada. Obviously, if you want to use the full richness of a language, that may take longer before you become fully proficient. But a project may only need a handful of people intimately familiar & conversant in Ada to handle architectural issues. Everyone else can be brought on board & learn it as they go. At one point in time, C++, Java, Eiffel, Python, etc. did not exist. Somehow, people managed to find programmers with 5 years of experience in all of these languages days after the first compilers were released (tongue firmly in cheek) so it must be possible to take programmers unfamiliar with a language and get them up to speed quickly & efficiently enough to be cost effective - or there would never be an ability to get *any* new language accepted. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Gary Scott" wrote in message news:3B17AEA6.39A75C35@lmtas.lmco.com... > Another one of those red harrings. Most of our products were/are > programmed in Jovial. Try finding a trained Jovial employee on the open > market. >