From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,92c39a3be0a7f17d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-02-26 17:30:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: byhoe@greenlime.com (Adrian Hoe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Future with Ada Date: 26 Feb 2002 17:30:49 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <9ff447f2.0202261730.7af81aa5@posting.google.com> References: <3wdH7.20135$xS6.32614@www.newsranger.com> <9tqete0gqc@drn.newsguy.com> <3C0924D6.2B5A3087@adaworks.com> <250220022121494455%thehouseofcards@remove.this.part.mac.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 210.186.172.87 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1014773449 16701 127.0.0.1 (27 Feb 2002 01:30:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 27 Feb 2002 01:30:49 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:20489 Date: 2002-02-27T01:30:49+00:00 List-Id: Michael Card wrote in message news:<250220022121494455%thehouseofcards@remove.this.part.mac.com>... > Hey CLA- > > RE: Richard's & Ben's comments about a shortage of ada programmers: > > In article <3C0924D6.2B5A3087@adaworks.com>, Richard Riehle > wrote: > > > "ben@NO_SPAM_EMAIL" wrote: > > > > > That is funny. It is almost impossible to find any Ada wanted ads these > > > days. > > > Actually there are more openings for almost any other language than for Ada. > > > > > > Can you point to ONE commerical Ada opening right now that requires no > > > active security clearance in the US? I bet you there is none. > > > > Over and over, we encounter companies who, after deciding to use Ada for > > its technological advantages, cannot hire qualified Ada programmers. Our > > most recent experience was a company in Silicon Valley. They were excited > > about using Ada, asked us to train some of the people, and then tried to hire > > more programmers to do Ada. They found it nearly impossible to find > > people with experience in their domain, sufficient mathematics, and lots > > of experience in Ada. Sadly, they finally decided to use C++ because it > > was so much easier to find programmers. > > I was wondering why it is perceived as undesirable to train new > programmers in Ada? Certainly hiring an experienced S/W engineer who > has only done C++ or Java, for example, would not require a significant > additional investment to train them in Ada? If teh language really > offers benefits, wouldn't those benefits more than offset the > relatively small cost of buying 2-3 weeks of intense Ada training for > the programmers? > > - Mike According to my experience in introducing Ada in my region, the most common factors are the incompetency of the managers to evaluate the software technology and lacking the guts to transition to something they less frequently heard of. ANother influential factor is market trend. Again, the above leads to fearing not compliant to latest market trend. -- Adrian Hoe -- http://greenlime.com/users/adrian.hoe