From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,7bcba1db9ed24fa7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-07-06 18:57:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: byhoe@greenlime.com (Adrian Hoe) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: is ada dead? Date: 6 Jul 2001 18:57:08 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <9ff447f2.0107061757.34ca0723@posting.google.com> References: <3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.106.196.28 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 994471028 12081 127.0.0.1 (7 Jul 2001 01:57:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-support@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Jul 2001 01:57:08 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9589 Date: 2001-07-07T01:57:08+00:00 List-Id: Lao Xiao Hai wrote in message news:<3B460DA9.C2965042@ix.netcom.com>... > tyler spivey wrote: > > > is ada dead? > > Yes. It seems no one lives forever. In the case of Ada, > Countess of Lovelace, she died sometime around 1854. > > Richard Riehle Ada is dead in Malaysia. One of UTM's (University of Technology Malaysia) KL campus was teaching and promoting Ada with a lot of confidence couple years ago when they were a joint-venture with Thomson CSF. Recently, I found that they had deserted Ada and switch to Java for the reason that there is no Ada market in Malaysia. ANother reason came from one of the senior lecturer was that Ada was too old. I told the senior lecturer I could not believe what he was saying because they were so confident about Ada. So, is Ada dead in Malaysia? I don't know how many Malaysians have joint CLA, but I will say that Ada is not dead in Malaysia. Reason? UTM's main campus in JB is teaching Ada in general and real time programming and there are as many as 120 students right now, yes, today! Lexical Integration (M) Sdn Bhd, the company I work with, although not as agressive as 4-5 years ago, still promoting Ada. Our R&D division uses Ada for research projects. 100% of all works in Lexical are using Ada. Lexical Integration will emerge as Ada authority in Malaysia in no time to come and that's our ultimate goal! Ada is a programming language appreciated by engineers who know the benefits. Java is a programming language appreciated by people who likes to read ads and listen to marketing persuasion. I do not intend to flame Java. It is a language with its own benefits and strength. This is what actually happened in Malaysia. People likes to follow the newest trends. In universities (Malaysian, Ok?), programming languages are taught not because of teching the students of programming concepts, but for the sake of market requirement. That's the most pathetic and irresponsible decision. Adrian Just my 2 cents worth!