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Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada
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"Graham Perkins" <gperkins@gperkins.co.uk> wrote in message news:<ba067m$iph$1@south.jnrs.ja.net>...
> My other principal usage experience is with Unix and
> VAX-VMS.  I suggest that both of those systems are
> considerably better than MS-Windows, qualitatively.
> Moreover, they were of extremely high quality from very
> early on in their life.  And you never had to double your

Early on?  You are either kidding, or you must not have
used Unix at least until 10-15 years after its inception,
or you have totally forgotten the numerous
reboots and "PANIC" halts followed by "fsck"
run manually.

Btw, the architect of Win-32 is the same individual
who architected VAX-VMS.  (Bill Gates doesn't sit down
and design Windows himself, he hires good people.)
That might be one of the reasons why Win-32 has always
been relatively stable, and with almost a decade of
use behind it, has achieved very decent quality levels.