From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-14 05:53:38 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: softeng3456@netscape.net (soft-eng) Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc Subject: Re: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died) Date: 14 May 2003 05:53:37 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Message-ID: <9fa75d42.0305140453.60cb98ff@posting.google.com> References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305070929.2d7a0d4c@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305081222.623e0b31@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305120543.25a27b89@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130930.182fbdec@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.97.239.19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1052916818 13678 127.0.0.1 (14 May 2003 12:53:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 May 2003 12:53:38 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63764 comp.object:63364 comp.lang.ada:37320 misc.misc:14154 Date: 2003-05-14T12:53:38+00:00 List-Id: Dr Chaos wrote in message news:... > On 13 May 2003 10:30:08 -0700, soft-eng wrote: > > Dr Chaos wrote in message news:... > > > >> > Because the strong type-checking of today's C-family languages > >> > has evolved rather than been dictated, it has had to retain > >> > that freedom. > >> > >> that's a nice way of saying it's full of cruft. > > > > So should we assume what you said earlier about Unix, > > was a nice way of saying it's full of cruft? > > well it is, but I think it's aged and evolved somewhat > better than C, except for the fact that you can STILL only > really call system facilities except by parsing and calling > literal C-language files. > > Those things about Unix which were intentionally designed > in as a major important concept (inodes!) are still great. I liked both Unix and C, but I see it very differently. Unix, once the forefront of operating system thought, is now obsolete. It has not evolved at all. It is merely being kept alive as a zombie by Linux and GNU. C is the one that's evolved into C++, C#, Java.