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Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada
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Wesley Groleau <wesgroleau@despammed.com> wrote in message news:<nNmdnZ46ROWIwFyjXTWcqg@gbronline.com>...
> soft-eng wrote:
> > PS:  Another interesting link on how to get quality products
> > done:
> > 
> > http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/TwoStories.html
> 
> I'm impressed.  If that's truly typical of Microsoft management.
> 
> OTOH, somehow it hasn't stopped them from churning out garbage
> year after year.

It's fashionable to say that.

But it is one thing to achieve quality control in a 50-100K
LOC program for a limited userbase.  But if you have actually
done that, you should be able to extrapolate to several
million LOC programs that work in multiple languages and
are literally used by millions of people in all sorts of
un-anticipated ways.  Given the magnitude of the task,
MS has indeed achieved great results.

Most problem domains don't have such challenging QA requirements.
Macintosh is another one (with only a fraction of
the user-base) -- but any honest Macintosh user
will admit to familiarity with the "bomb" icon.