From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a0c:ea34:: with SMTP id t20mr15558780qvp.11.1565385850350; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a9d:39a6:: with SMTP id y35mr20177283otb.81.1565385850035; Fri, 09 Aug 2019 14:24:10 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder6.news.weretis.net!feeder.usenetexpress.com!feeder-in1.iad1.usenetexpress.com!border1.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!b26no4682380qtq.0!news-out.google.com!y1ni342qtn.0!nntp.google.com!b26no4682377qtq.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 14:24:09 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <67d7dee5-d2d0-4569-8358-36d2fad4cf0f@googlegroups.com> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5; posting-account=L2-UcQkAAAAfd_BqbeNHs3XeM0jTXloS NNTP-Posting-Host: 2a02:c7d:3c35:b000:325a:3aff:fe0f:37a5 References: <1992Dec4.141816.1@happy.colorado.edu> <86986725-f34e-46d7-9efc-d15d94379048@googlegroups.com> <97509e4d-05b9-4b6a-ab12-613abbe562b0@googlegroups.com> <011db4d7-3455-407d-9a1d-aa747d35c538@googlegroups.com> <67d7dee5-d2d0-4569-8358-36d2fad4cf0f@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9f203010-2432-4ff6-a44c-3ecde392ff12@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mariner 1 / FORTRAN bug From: Lucretia Injection-Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 21:24:10 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:57022 Date: 2019-08-09T14:24:09-07:00 List-Id: On Friday, 9 August 2019 22:05:40 UTC+1, Maciej Sobczak wrote: > > That is why using named arguments is better and also more clear > >=20 > > P (I=3D>1, J=3D>2); >=20 > Of course - the best way to avoid writing bad code is to write good code.= But this is true in any language. What we should expect from good language= s is that bad code should be impossible, or at least writing bad code shoul= d take more effort than writing good code. And yet, what the above example = shows, bad code is perfectly possible in Ada and in fact is easier - and th= at good code involves higher effort. >=20 > Which, ultimately, makes it more difficult for Ada to gain attention of C= ++ programmers, for example. You could always have a enforce named parameters compiler option, don't kno= w if GNAT has that, which would piss off most people if there was no editor= assistance to fill that in for you. Luke.