From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,6b1681d8b21813cc X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-21 07:05:49 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!isdnet!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Computer Weekly survey: Ada does well again Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 09:54:19 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9eb6md$3bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <4qvgmyab28.fsf@melvin.dp.ox.ac.uk> <9e5d32$2qf4@news.kvaerner.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 990453261 3453 136.170.200.133 (21 May 2001 13:54:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 21 May 2001 13:54:21 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:7674 Date: 2001-05-21T13:54:21+00:00 List-Id: The relevant quote is: =============================================== The other top 25 skill to show growth relative to the first quarter of 2000 is Ada, which is enjoying the greatest popularity it has ever known. It featured in 530 ads this time, placing it 15th. ================================================ That's an interesting number - I wish we had information about this for the US - not just the UK. I'd suspect that Ada is doing better in the UK than in the US - but that's gut reaction, not data. But of course if Ada usage expands anywhere, that is a good thing because it is likely to spill over into other markets eventually. And then: ============================================== None of the Ada requirement came from the public sector. Software houses accounted for well over a third of the Ada opportunities, while one in 10 of these jobs was offered by a computer supplier - in this sector league table Ada lies third, behind only C and C++. ============================================== Its nice to know Ada is doing so well outside of government circles. Maybe it is an example of "Military Intelligence"? As the military abandons Ada to start trend-following, the private sector starts "discovering" Ada. Not sure what they mean by "Software Houses". Would that be vendors such as Microsoft who are building products for sale or would that be companies providing some form of software services to non-computer-businesses? What is a "Software House"? What do they do? How big are they on average? And what are they specifically doing with Ada? Similarly, what is meant by "computer supplier"? And why would they want Ada programmers? Would we be talking about a computer manufacturer like IBM or Compaq? And if so, what would they be doing with Ada? ================================================= Among other industries, Ada is most in demand in the engineering sector, which again accounts for one in 10 of the jobs on offer. Here also Ada is in third place, behind C and C++ again. Engineering companies are also keen on Pascal and account for fully a half of all demand for this language. ================================================= That makes sense. In engineering applications, the emphasis is not so heavily skewed towards time-to-market where the language with the spiffiest development kit & accesories to leverage make the language a winner. In the engineering realm, one is more apt to be concentrating on a central core of code that is complex, has to work properly, and will stick around for a good long time. GUI building, databases, etc. (while they are used and are important) do not become the focal point, so Ada's relative lack of development accessories doesn't hurt it so much. Its benefits get to shine. I think that suggests where to focus the Ada marketing effort. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Tarjei T. Jensen" wrote in message news:9e5d32$2qf4@news.kvaerner.com... > The article can be found at the bottom of > http://www.cw360.com/article&rd=&i=&ard=101919 > > Greetings, > > >