From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-15 16:05:51 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newscore.univie.ac.at!aconews.univie.ac.at!news.tu-graz.ac.at!not-for-mail From: Reini Urban Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Date: 15 May 2001 22:53:52 GMT Organization: http://www.x-ray.at/ Distribution: world Message-ID: <9dsc20$op3$2@fstgss02.tu-graz.ac.at> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.27.43.9 X-Trace: fstgss02.tu-graz.ac.at 989967232 25379 129.27.43.9 (15 May 2001 22:53:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@zid.tu-graz.ac.at NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 May 2001 22:53:52 GMT User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-19990517 ("Psychonaut") (UNIX) (Linux/2.2.13-SMP (i686)) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7545 comp.lang.lisp:10128 comp.lang.smalltalk:9698 comp.lang.functional:5661 comp.lang.scheme:3832 comp.lang.perl:2765 Date: 2001-05-15T22:53:52+00:00 List-Id: In comp.lang.lisp raj wrote: :>> > >I currently go to an Austrian school where mostly programming/CS/software :>> > >engineering-related things are taught (it's for 5 years, and you start :>> > >at an age of 14), :>> > Ouch. This is probably a bad idea... :>> You mean the age? That's not a problem. :>> This school actually educates Austria's :>> software engineering elite. :> :>Specialized education at that age, to be honest, seems militaristic. : That is probably "not a problem" either. : Remember, you are talking about the educational system of a country : that produced Joerg Haider, Kurt Waldheim and most (in)famously Adolf : Schicklgruber. he was talking about an elite school that cannot mixed with a country wide "system". the brtish educational system is said to be more "militaristic" than the austrian. so what? pure nonsense. more and more ground school pupils do learn programming in a lot of civilized countries. and to my knowledge most of them start with pascal nowadays. before that it was basic. I started with basic at 10 in an ordinary school, no elite. my brother in law runs a ground school with a lot of computers, and some of the kids (8-12 years) do like programming. (VB, I guess). -- Reini Urban http://xarch.tu-graz.ac.at/acadwiki/AutoLispFaq