From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-15 12:29:53 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.umd.edu!peter.schuller From: peter.schuller@infidyne.com (Peter Schuller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Date: 15 May 2001 19:29:52 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <9ds03g$phk$2@hecate.umd.edu> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dmq0v$60r$1@hecate.umd.edu> <9dmvrg$49c$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dnnnf$idk$1@hecate.umd.edu> <9dntj0$elp$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dp8km$1i8$1@hecate.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: scode.student.umd.edu X-Trace: hecate.umd.edu 989954992 26164 129.2.244.203 (15 May 2001 19:29:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 May 2001 19:29:52 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7533 comp.lang.lisp:10112 comp.lang.smalltalk:9690 comp.lang.functional:5659 comp.lang.scheme:3828 comp.lang.perl:2761 Date: 2001-05-15T19:29:52+00:00 List-Id: >C.S. Lewis (who was an educator before he was an author) talked about >this problem over 40 years ago. He pointed out that you can really >only measure such tangibles as the student's retention of "facts". I agree with this - mostly. But the issue at hand was wheather you learned something useful in history class, not wheater you can measure it :) -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org