From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,3727232787ce671e X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,3727232787ce671e X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-15 11:46:00 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!194.25.134.62!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newscore.gigabell.net!isdnet!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp Subject: Re: Universities in the US Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 14:33:47 -0400 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <9drsqc$mkm$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <9drfcr$du11@news-dxb> <9drk4t$hjk$1@news3.cadvision.com> <9drq8e$4ci$1@trog.dera.gov.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 989951628 23190 136.170.200.133 (15 May 2001 18:33:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 15 May 2001 18:33:48 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7530 comp.lang.lisp:10109 Date: 2001-05-15T18:33:48+00:00 List-Id: Or more accurately, some languages hang on like the California Condor - only a dozen or so in existence with a small team of admirers struggling valiantly to keep them alive. :-) Seriously, its hard to see any languages *totally* disappear from any use at all. However, usage can drop so low that it falls below the radar horizon. (No jobs, not much teaching/learning of it, only a handful of projects in obscure corners of the universe using it.) Languages can fall into niche markets where there are some jobs, some academic usage and some active interest in starting new projects in it. Ada kind of falls in that category - not invisible, just not the hottest language in use. Now that I am being forced (once again!) to program in C, I really realize how much I miss Ada. As much complaining as I've done about Ada's representation clauses - I now want to take it all back! I've got very nearly *nothing* in C to help me with data representation. The level of pain is so high in comparison to even *weak* support for representation in Ada, that I absolutely cannot fathom why embedded programmers love C so much and ignore Ada? Perceptually speaking, I think Ada is experiencing some resurgence of interest in the programming community. Especially with student programmers. Perhaps there is becoming a realization that C/C++/Java/etc. just don't offer as many nice features as Ada does for serious, industrial-strength, larger-scale development. Hopefully, the trend will continue. MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Kevin Rigotti" wrote in message news:9drq8e$4ci$1@trog.dera.gov.uk... > I learnt functional programming in Hope, but have never seen it in a job > advert. Similarly, I learned how to do distributed programming in Conic and > haven't seen it since. They're never truly gone I suppose because the ideas > get recycled but branches do drop off the evolutionary tree sometimes.