From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: 10c949,ee0fbe55b9c493e7 X-Google-Attributes: gid10c949,public X-Google-Thread: f9e27,ee0fbe55b9c493e7 X-Google-Attributes: gidf9e27,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,ee0fbe55b9c493e7 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-14 03:13:45 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!skynet.be!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!fw.baan.NL!not-for-mail From: "Biep @ http://www.biep.org/" Newsgroups: misc.education,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic.misc,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl.misc Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Followup-To: misc.education Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:15:49 +0200 Message-ID: <9dob4m$j5du5$1@ID-63952.news.dfncis.de> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dmq0v$60r$1@hecate.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: fw.baan.nl (194.149.80.1) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989835222 20101061 194.149.80.1 (16 [63952]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com misc.education:15841 comp.lang.ada:7481 comp.lang.lisp:9995 comp.lang.smalltalk:9655 comp.lang.basic.misc:2373 comp.lang.functional:5627 comp.lang.scheme:3785 comp.lang.perl.misc:49082 Date: 2001-05-14T12:15:49+02:00 List-Id: "Peter Schuller" wrote in message news:9dmq0v$60r$1@hecate.umd.edu... > I began programming when I was 8. I knew exactly what type of job I wanted > eventuellay, and I *wanted* to pursue my interestes. > > Why not start admitting 8-year olds? They are surely capable. > Heh; I hadn't read the entire message. Glad you suggested it :) I think it is very easy to stunt the development of a child at that age, and it resuires a specific effort from an educational system to make them grow in areas they haven't learned to appreciate yet. I happen to think that an educational system in a democracy has the moral obligation to do just that: to help turn children into full human beings, rather than allow them to hide in a corner for the rest of their lives. After all, these children will be tomorrow's voters. One is certainly allowed to dislike, say, history even after being exposed to a decent quantity of facts and their significance, but someone who does not want to do some historic research should at least be aware that they are missing so much that they better refrain from voting. I doubt whether a child of 14 who dislikes history will have learned that lesson already - the a-ha erlebnis will not have occurred yet, I would guess. The same is true m. m. for other subjects. Follow-ups to misc.education -- Biep Reply via http://www.biep.org