From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-13 23:32:01 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.umd.edu!peter.schuller From: peter.schuller@infidyne.com (Peter Schuller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Date: 14 May 2001 06:30:16 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <9dnu1o$inn$1@hecate.umd.edu> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dmq0v$60r$1@hecate.umd.edu> <9dmvrg$49c$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dnnnf$idk$1@hecate.umd.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: scode.student.umd.edu X-Trace: hecate.umd.edu 989821816 19191 129.2.244.203 (14 May 2001 06:30:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 14 May 2001 06:30:16 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7475 comp.lang.lisp:9983 comp.lang.smalltalk:9649 comp.lang.functional:5617 comp.lang.scheme:3778 comp.lang.perl:2723 Date: 2001-05-14T06:30:16+00:00 List-Id: >>That's a strawman. One should have received a broad, extensive >>education before becoming a Ph.D. candidate. And btw, that's a matter of definition. One that should be changed. What's important is what you *know*, not what you've studied. A CS Ph.D isn't likely to remember details tought in history or social science (unless the person in question is particularly interested in the subject); likewise a History Ph.D isn't likely to be able to explain the difference between automatic and dynamic memory allocation in C, or what a "class" is in the context of object oriented programming. However, a CS major is expected to be aware of the second world war, and a history major is expected to know what a computer is. But that's a different matter - one that does not require anyone to study computer or World War II in extreme detail. (I happen to be interested in WWII, so in my case I wouldn't mind studying it in detail, but any other example will do just fine aswell. I'm not interested in Swedish kings for example.) -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org