From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-13 13:18:04 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!howland.erols.net!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news.umd.edu!peter.schuller From: peter.schuller@infidyne.com (Peter Schuller) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Date: 13 May 2001 20:15:27 GMT Organization: University of Maryland College Park Message-ID: <9dmq0v$60r$1@hecate.umd.edu> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> NNTP-Posting-Host: scode.student.umd.edu X-Trace: hecate.umd.edu 989784927 6171 129.2.244.203 (13 May 2001 20:15:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@wam.umd.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 May 2001 20:15:27 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.6.2 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7463 comp.lang.lisp:9963 comp.lang.smalltalk:9639 comp.lang.functional:5604 comp.lang.scheme:3771 comp.lang.perl:2712 Date: 2001-05-13T20:15:27+00:00 List-Id: [age 14] >> You mean the age? That's not a problem. > >Specialized education at that age, to be honest, seems militaristic. Sorry to but this late, but I have to re-act to this. One doesn't have to be an idiot because one is young. There is nothing wrong with persuing one's interests while still young. I began programming when I was 8. I knew exactly what type of job I wanted eventuellay, and I *wanted* to pursue my interestes. The biggest problem was the stupid educational system which acts a huge bump on the road (this is Sweden by the way; pretty much comparable to US education except slightly "faster"). In order to get good grades, everyone has to send a *significant* part of their lives working on subjects in school they do now *want* to be studying. Why? Because some suit at the governemntal level thinks that X, Y and Z should be required subjects for all students (nevermind that if you're not interested in it you don't remember it anyway). You couldn't take an alternate route even if you wanted to - unless you dropped out completely. The biggest ploblem I had with the system was always the lack of choice, and I was quite vocal about those opinions. (Oh and btw, I had well above average grades, so I'm not complaining because I got bad grades or something here.) *PLEASE* let people choose. They're not vegetables just because they haven't turned 18. >Why not start admitting 8-year olds? They are surely capable. Heh; I hadn't read the entire message. Glad you suggested it :) Militaristic would be *forcing* students to specialize; just as militaristic as it is to force students to get a "broad" education defined by someone else. If a person wanted to get a Ph.D. in whatever subject, he/she should be allowed to do so regardless of age. -- / Peter Schuller, InfiDyne Technologies HB PGP userID: 0xE9758B7D or 'Peter Schuller ' Key retrival: Send an E-Mail to getpgpkey@scode.org E-Mail: peter.schuller@infidyne.com Web: http://www.scode.org