From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-13 03:42:04 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!news1.optus.net.au!optus!news.usyd.edu.au!mwotton From: mwotton@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au (Mark Wotton) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 Date: 13 May 2001 10:41:12 GMT Organization: Mare's Nest Collective Message-ID: <9dloc8$d4p$1@spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dji16$irbvv$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dlgj3$ies$1@bird.wu-wien.ac.at> Reply-To: mwotton@student.usyd.MUNGedu.au NNTP-Posting-Host: p19992.net10.usyd.edu.au X-Trace: spacebar.ucc.usyd.edu.au 989750472 13465 10.0.78.24 (13 May 2001 10:41:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.usyd.edu.au NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 May 2001 10:41:12 GMT User-Agent: slrn/0.9.5.7 (UNIX) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7449 comp.lang.lisp:9942 comp.lang.smalltalk:9631 comp.lang.functional:5593 comp.lang.scheme:3762 comp.lang.perl:2701 Date: 2001-05-13T10:41:12+00:00 List-Id: On Sun, 13 May 2001 08:28:19 +0000 (UTC), Markus Mottl posted: > >You hadn't said so, but your statement clearly implies that you think it's >the fault of our educational system that there are politically doubtful >Austrians and that you agreed with the previous article, which stated >that it was a militaristic aspect of an educational system if pupils _can_ >(they need not!) start to specialize in education at the age of 14. As if >this were any different from educational systems in other countries! Or >do you want to tell us that all Australian pupils get humanistic education >in history, arts and literature only until they are 18? Well, yes, actually. At least when I went through, doing at least one humanities subject was compulsory all the way through to year 12, which happens to be the year I turned 18. This doesn't include the study of literature and English, which is also compulsory. This should not be taken as an indictment on Austria's educational system: it's just a data point. mrak