From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-12 14:58:04 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!freenix!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!62.46.247.10!not-for-mail From: a.krennmair@aon.at (Andreas Krennmair) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: [OT] Software Engineering at 14 (was: Re: Beginner's Language?) Date: 12 May 2001 21:56:43 GMT Organization: Church Of Tux Message-ID: <9dkbiq$j2ver$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9ddfv2$gl3$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9dh21o$i8crr$2@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dhtr9$59d$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> <9djhj4$irbvv$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <9dk70r$4gv$1@merrimack.Dartmouth.EDU> Reply-To: a.krennmair@aon.at NNTP-Posting-Host: 62.46.247.10 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989704603 20020699 62.46.247.10 (16 [37382]) X-Orig-Path: a.krennmair X-Signature-Color: green X-Registered-Linux-User: 142096 X-Die-wahre-Distro: Debian X-Signature-License: GPL User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.0 (Linux) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7433 comp.lang.lisp:9923 comp.lang.smalltalk:9617 comp.lang.functional:5574 comp.lang.scheme:3750 comp.lang.perl:2681 Date: 2001-05-12T21:56:43+00:00 List-Id: FM wrote: > > If somebody's not talented, he will > > leave school after one year anyway. > > I love the logic there. Would the kid feel the same about himself > when he leaves the school for whatever reason? It's not as though > there's a clear line between the "talented" and the "untalented" > either. The line IS drawn clearly within the first year. Those who get it, have good marks on the tests in subjects like programming and "basics of computer science", and those who don't, will fail in at least 2 subjects (programming, basics of computer science, sometimes also accounting, and quite often maths). > > And those who are in the > > higher classes are very motivated because everybody likes the stuff they're > > doing. > > I would think they would be just as motivated if they were studying > the same stuff on their own. Of course they would, but in school they're supported and trained by professionals, either having several years of experience in the industry or being respectable computer science professors. > Frankly, writing a primitive OS (that's what I would have to assume) > is a great exercise, not an achievement of any kind. Age is hardly a > factor. Well, I wouldn't call it too primitive, since it has some built-in layer that makes in binary compatible with Linux. AFAIK, you can also easily replace the scheduler, and they already have a quite good scheduler for hard realtime applications. Regards, Andreas Krennmair -- Users should be more Linux-friendly