From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.236.119.67 with SMTP id m43mr5182223yhh.31.1413077113208; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.182.186.34 with SMTP id fh2mr3769obc.21.1413077113081; Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.glorb.com!s7no2090793qap.0!news-out.google.com!rp1ni26922igb.0!nntp.google.com!h18no4834228igc.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2014 18:25:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87fvex5bwy.fsf@ixod.org> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.176.73.77; posting-account=yiWntAoAAAC1KqC_shmxJYv07B9l6LNU NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.176.73.77 References: <87h9zdpi84.fsf@ixod.org> <87fvex5bwy.fsf@ixod.org> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9dcfc1e4-ece3-4b6f-9f05-b53558ba91bf@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Newcomers to comp.lang.ada: welcome and how did you end up here ? From: David Botton Injection-Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2014 01:25:13 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:22364 Date: 2014-10-11T18:25:12-07:00 List-Id: > That is great news, and makes the situation much less surprising to me. >=20 > I think that in my reading I had realized that GNAT Pro is different, >=20 > but I must have conflated GNAT FSF with GNAT GPL (especially as the FSF >=20 > have typically done GPL enforcement!). I wonder if it makes sense for the community to rename the FSF packaged ver= sion of GNAT to something else to prevent this confusion. I am very happy to promote AdaCore as an option for a supported compiler op= tion. As marketed now the only open source Ada compiler is given the stigma that = it is not fit for use at all for anything serious, as a opposed to AdaCore = just marketing a "value add". The value they add is _huge_ on serious proje= cts (I've been on both sides supporting and supported) and it is well worth= it. However... Leaving the public impression that Ada (since GNAT is only open = source option) is not viable as a language for projects without support is = damaging to everyone. Would the gnuada team or others consider creating a new branded FSF GNAT ta= rgeted to the small business world? Perhaps OpenAda? << OpenAda the Commercial Grade Open Source Ada Compiler -------------------------------------------------- For those seeking an "Enterprise support environment" can contact AdaCore = as OpenAda is compatible to the GnatPRO tool chain. >> David Botton