From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 106e63,4d69155937632764 X-Google-Attributes: gid106e63,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-06 03:51:01 PST Path: newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!194.213.69.151!news.algonet.se!algonet!pepsi.tninet.se!not-for-mail From: "Dan Andersson" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk.advocacy,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme Subject: SV: Beginner's Language? Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 12:49:43 +0200 Organization: Telenordia Message-ID: <9d3a8f$fjl$1@zingo.tninet.se> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <3AF4841D.7B63812C@Desk.org> <3AF4AD27.BE4B5678@Desk.org> <3AF4CD7D.80F16169@Desk.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: sdu143-225.ppp.algonet.se X-Trace: zingo.tninet.se 989146191 15989 195.163.225.143 (6 May 2001 10:49:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@algo.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 May 2001 10:49:51 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: newsfeed.google.com comp.lang.ada:7227 comp.lang.lisp:9739 comp.lang.functional:5537 comp.lang.scheme:3651 Date: 2001-05-06T10:49:51+00:00 List-Id: > > > The Forth ANSI standard is small enough to be grasped by a single person > > > so there is no need to aim at a restricted set there. > > > > This was my point. > > OK, the Smalltalk core is _much_ smaller and the presence of a simple > syntax makes it easier to read than Forth though. So I'd say of these > two Smalltalk is the 'better' example. Smalltalk core smaller than Forth, surely you jest? Maybe a minimal Smalltalk is smaller than a full ANS Forth. But Forth is commonly used under severely constrained circumstances and the base wordset is small. Regards Dan Andersson