From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,29d8139471e3f53e X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!newsfeed.straub-nv.de!uucp.gnuu.de!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool2.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Preventing type extensions Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <87iq2bfenl.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <874odv9npv.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87y6b7cedd.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <66a3704c-54f9-4f04-8860-aa12f516134b@t3g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> <87d3sib44t.fsf@mid.deneb.enyo.de> <134q4k2ly2pf4$.17nlv1q6q5ivo.dlg@40tude.net> <4c8dec8e$0$6990$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <8f6cceFrv2U1@mid.individual.net> <135a7dc9-3943-45e4-884b-3cc6bce3db0a@q18g2000vbm.googlegroups.com> <10rutrnp4yp1b$.vxcbtginicg9.dlg@40tude.net> <1rwwxbzfj78eh.6l7isp9fciba$.dlg@40tude.net> <4c98e745$0$7667$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <1qwl6jiun2mik$.s1k2xnzg8dv6$.dlg@40tude.net> <8g3nflFnruU1@mid.individual.net> Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:27:46 +0200 Message-ID: <9d1804mxit9j$.wyo5zgwjxh71.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Sep 2010 18:27:44 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: bf3ec550.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=c:E5]2X]Gk:LNKYb?b>0764IUK[ On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 16:30:29 +0300, Niklas Holsti wrote: > Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >> On Tue, 21 Sep 2010 19:11:33 +0200, Georg Bauhaus wrote: >> >>> On 21.09.10 18:25, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: >>> >>>> horse /= animal >>> It will help immensely, I think, at least those of us who do >>> not do type theory on an every day basis, if we had a glossary >>> of terms for interpreting expression like "horse /= animal". >> >> Gosh, it was no more than just this: if horse is an animal that does not >> imply they are interchangeable. Compare: "all horses have hoofs" and "all >> animals have hoofs." >> >> is-a /= is >> member /= set >> >> Moreover: >> >> is-a /= substitutable (greeting to the LSP!) >> >> Compare: "some animals have tentacles" and "some horses have tentacles." > > Those are not properties of "horses" and "animals", but properties of > the *set* of horses and the *set* of animals. horses is set of horses. > The property "all horses have hooves" expresses a universal property of > horses: if X is a horse, then X has hooves. The statement "some horses > have tentacles" says nothing about any given horse X. Both are predicates: forall x in horses, x has hooves exists x in animals, x has tentacles [ if you dropped existential quantification, you would not be able to describe functions returning values ] -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de