From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2b909902584f450a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: google1@hafdconsulting.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ANN: Basil -- Internet Message (email) and MIME library for Ada v 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:45:48 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <9c8cfef5-fa43-4de1-9d20-4fe466186e5e@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> References: <3d42731b-4669-414e-87cc-454260ef62ec@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> <1ff77708-02c3-4552-a8a0-128a7fc34581@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com> <877ibdhm4g.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <4426acc1-81ba-4b82-b53d-fbf11b66e51f@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.20.35.30 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1216817148 1279 127.0.0.1 (23 Jul 2008 12:45:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 12:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.20.35.30; posting-account=OhyMIwoAAABpudocR3HA8t2ohhQMuzpv User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux sparc64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.8) Gecko/20071004 Iceweasel/2.0.0.8 (Debian-2.0.0.8-1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:7015 Date: 2008-07-23T05:45:48-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 23, 6:07 am, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > Right, that's why I was talking about the SMTP *client* part of AWS. > But of course, you decide how you speak with the customer's MTA. I think you are confused about how mail systems typically work. The only thing that typically needs to serve as an SMTP *client* or do anything with SMTP at all is Mail Server (Mail Transfer Agent) the only reason why a Mail User Agent would deal with SMTP is if it wanted to support one of the newer methods of accessing its parent server such as SMTP TLS. Otherwise there are many other non-SMTP ways of accessing a server, at least one of which is almost surely more appropriate. > > I am considering using AWS for the web interface portion, but then again > > you have the same integration problem. People want their web applications > > to run behind the web server *they* choose (or at least Apache) they don't > > want a stand-alone system. [...] > > If you want to integrate with the customer's web server, I'm afraid > your best option is Java Servlets :( . . . Web servers provide many APIs, from CGI to loadable modules. As Java Servlets are one option produced by a software company for its proprietary language that is not Ada, no, I don't think that would be the best option given my constraints. > I didn't want to offend you but yes, this is small. Compare this with Ludovic, not to offend *you* but I've not seen any evidence on this thread that you don't want to offend me. It seems that is all you've tried to do. Yes, a library that has been in development for six months does not compare to gcc, nor other projects that have been around for many years, some with corporate backing. But considering the central thesis of your argument is a belief that Basil doesn't have a right to exist as a separate package, I think most would consider 10k SLOC as being past the threshold where a piece of software can be written off as trivial. Anyway, I guess I've been away from Usenet for too long, and forgotten how to put up with trolling. Thank you everyone *else* for your warm reception. I hope to have content-dispensation and few other things in this project in a week or so. I also have some other projects in mind for the next few months. I'm currently planning a Unicode library and hope to have a spec written for that soon. -- Jordan Bettis