From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.107.150.76 with SMTP id y73mr8517458iod.87.1510414700614; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.94.7 with SMTP id d7mr518634oti.8.1510414700519; Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!weretis.net!feeder4.news.weretis.net!news.roellig-ltd.de!open-news-network.org!peer02.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!l196no1126830itl.0!news-out.google.com!193ni4488iti.0!nntp.google.com!l196no1126826itl.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 07:38:20 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2003:c7:83c6:b01a:f9c6:876e:eae1:3cce; posting-account=rmHyLAoAAADSQmMWJF0a_815Fdd96RDf NNTP-Posting-Host: 2003:c7:83c6:b01a:f9c6:876e:eae1:3cce References: <6a5368c5-f015-4dcb-9291-e77b40fa1bf1@googlegroups.com> <39330489-ec8b-481f-bcff-a5b7d1a2d8e3@googlegroups.com> <7c68eace-8a03-4bfc-806d-aa78a453f97f@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <9c50e205-f733-45d9-9536-8dc0dac446f5@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: some trivial questions? From: AdaMagica Injection-Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 15:38:20 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Body-CRC: 1366294972 X-Received-Bytes: 2569 Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:48821 Date: 2017-11-11T07:38:20-08:00 List-Id: Am Samstag, 11. November 2017 13:17:10 UTC+1 schrieb Dmitry A. Kazakov: > P.S. Indirect visibility is a nonsense concept. A thing is either=20 > visible and that is directly visible or not visible. There is no need to= =20 > mark anything as invisible because it could be visible if you did=20 > something else. Just do that else or do nothing. The general Ada term is "visible" comprising "directly visible", RM 8.3(2). Direct visibility in this context is use-visibility in contrast to visibili= ty by selection (selected_component). So I do not understand what you are t= rying to say. Would you favor use-clauses everywhere, i.e. (not Ada) an imp= lied use-clause with any with-clause? But for resolving visibility conflict= s, we need selector_names, so we need a term for this kind of visibility.