From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,8ea33c39efc56ac3 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!c6g2000prb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Adam Beneschan Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Re=3A_sharp_=DF_and_ss_in_Ada_keywords_like_ACCESS?= Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 11:54:25 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <9a302f3b-c2ff-49a0-affb-a480ed0b79a1@c6g2000prb.googlegroups.com> References: <4e931db5$0$6541$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> <1f9a5099-f5f5-49a8-8773-b7eaca771427@s5g2000pra.googlegroups.com> <4e93381d$0$6545$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.126.103.122 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1318359365 980 127.0.0.1 (11 Oct 2011 18:56:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 18:56:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: c6g2000prb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.126.103.122; posting-account=duW0ogkAAABjRdnxgLGXDfna0Gc6XqmQ User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-Header-Order: ARLUEHNKC X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.0; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC1; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; Media Center PC 5.0; .NET CLR 3.5.21022; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30618; .NET4.0C),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:22345 Date: 2011-10-11T11:54:25-07:00 List-Id: On Oct 11, 10:33=A0am, "Martin Krischik" wrote: > Am 10.10.2011, 20:23 Uhr, schrieb Georg Bauhaus =A0 > : > > > However, there is substantial evidence that no z would ever be > > combined with an s such that the result is both forming an > > "ess-zed" shape, > > You just have to use the right typeface: > > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Fraktur_letter_S.png > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Fraktur_letter_Z.png > > The middle s and then small z will form the =DF Actually, I think that a handwritten "z" looks quite a bit like the right side of =DF (and the elongated "s" looks like the left side, so there). When they tried to teach me penmanship grade school (this is here in California), the "z" actually looked kind of like a 3 with a loop at the bottom, not unlike the "z" Martin linked to. I don't know if they still teach that in schools. I know my handwritten z's these days don't look anything like what they tried to foist on me in second grade (and neither do my s's, r's, f's, and probably several other letters). However, I still use a mnemonic my dad taught me to tell whether a moon is waxing or waning; if the curve is the same as the curve in a handwritten A, it's waning (A=3Dabnehmen), while if it's the same as the handwritten Z, the one that sort of looks like a 3, it's waxing (Z=3Dzunehmen). Just to get us even further off topic. If we want to get back to Ada, we should start discussing whether the language should treat the characters "z" and "3" as equivalent. (Just kidding... :-) :-)) -- Adam