From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.4 required=5.0 tests=AC_FROM_MANY_DOTS,BAYES_00 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cec20777e0d41ea0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-03-13 08:46:21 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!isdnet!psinet-france!psiuk-f4!psiuk-p4!uknet!psiuk-n!news.pace.co.uk!nh.pace.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Marin David Condic" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Increased Interest In Ada? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 11:31:28 -0500 Organization: Posted on a server owned by Pace Micro Technology plc Message-ID: <98li1s$4ri$1@nh.pace.co.uk> References: <3A82EFA2.C8756B09@acm.org> <970ma1$1l7$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <98inu2$1fr$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <98kjgv$3j69@news.kvaerner.com> <98lc03$23l$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <98lf4h$jbe2@news.kvaerner.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 136.170.200.133 X-Trace: nh.pace.co.uk 984501116 4978 136.170.200.133 (13 Mar 2001 16:31:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@pace.co.uk NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2001 16:31:56 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:5687 Date: 2001-03-13T16:31:56+00:00 List-Id: Well, I suppose you could have a "Intro To Realtime Programming - 101" class that used PCs/MS-DOS as the basis & let students work with things that have some realtime requirement. But there should be a "Embedded System Programming - 201(301? 401?)" course that involves a SBC with no OS and all the typical problems that go with that. This is where I'd want to aim the development kit. If all you want to do is teach some elements of realtime systems, then you can get GNAT off-the-shelf and load it on a PC and just design your course around it. If you want to teach "real" embedded programming, you've got to have a "real" embedded machine, etc., and your problem quickly becomes "no Ada for that setup." I was sort of shooting in the direction of "What would it take to get an Ada Development Kit suitable for that sort of course..." MDC -- Marin David Condic Senior Software Engineer Pace Micro Technology Americas www.pacemicro.com Enabling the digital revolution e-Mail: marin.condic@pacemicro.com Web: http://www.mcondic.com/ "Tarjei T. Jensen" wrote in message news:98lf4h$jbe2@news.kvaerner.com... > The point is to phase things in. Having MSDOS onboard is nice when you teach > them how to handle interrupts, sampling instruments, snooping the network > card, etc. After they master that is the time to go furter. Don't let them > run into the wall at full speed. Let them learn a bit first, get some > experience.