From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,cec20777e0d41ea0 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-03-13 00:38:03 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!news.gv.tsc.tdk.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!skynet.be!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!warm.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.kvaerner.com!news@kvaerner.com From: "Tarjei T. Jensen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Increased Interest In Ada? Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 08:50:53 +0100 Organization: Kvaerner Group IT Message-ID: <98kjgv$3j69@news.kvaerner.com> References: <3A82EFA2.C8756B09@acm.org> <970ma1$1l7$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <98inu2$1fr$1@nh.pace.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 155.209.159.241 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2120.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2120.0 Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:5675 Date: 2001-03-13T08:50:53+01:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote in message <98inu2$1fr$1@nh.pace.co.uk>... >Old PCs may have their advantages, but I'd like to see a setup that had >features this wouldn't necessarily provide. For one thing - just the pure >"bare board" nature of embedded computing might not be well illustrated by a >PC, considering they already have prefabricated solutions to typical >embedded problems like "How do I actually get code loaded into this board & >cycling?" For another thing, they don't commonly have things like EEPROM, >A/D converters & discretes on-board. (You'd like to give students a machine >that is not what they are typically used to and pose the question "Well, how >are you going to solve Problem X when you don't have a disk drive and a >video monitor available???") You might also want a development kit that >reflected as much as possible current state-of-the-art hardware. If one were >to go to all the trouble of pulling the pieces together, it might be nice if >there were commercial spinoffs as well. :-) Doing this should be a two stage approach. Stage 1 is using off the shelf hardware like a standard PC. Stage 2 would involve working on an embedded kit. That way the money last. I don't think embedded intel kits are particularly cheap. And if you want a kit for everybody then it isn't cheap anymore. As for what you can connect to a PC; only your imagination limits you. The last two issues of Elektor has articles on a DIY PCI card. The card is available so that you can use it for prototyping. All sorts of things are possible. Then we have parallell and serial ports, network cards, scsi and gpib controllers, etc. Greetings,