From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,751d508677a5add1 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Gautier write-only Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ADA made me hate programming Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 02:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <98aa58b3-50fc-418d-9f72-524b5a23c89d@t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com> References: <8f469661-370c-4484-82d8-f1b365455e0f@w12g2000yqj.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.122.158.4 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1277890632 13081 127.0.0.1 (30 Jun 2010 09:37:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2010 09:37:12 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: t10g2000yqg.googlegroups.com; posting-host=206.122.158.4; posting-account=gRqrnQkAAAAC_02ynnhqGk1VRQlve6ZG User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US) AppleWebKit/533.4 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/5.0.375.70 Safari/533.4,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:12031 Date: 2010-06-30T02:37:12-07:00 List-Id: On 30 Jun., 07:23, mahdert wrote: > When I first started my undergraduate studies as a computer science > major, I was forced to use ADA in an introductory course.. Mind you I > was already familiar with C++ at that time..but after dealing with ADA > and compilet time errors for about a year, I decided to change my > major to mech eng.. So perhaps you made a very wise decision due to this course. If you had compile-time errors with Ada, it was because you had bugs and bugs tend to be detected more at compile-time with Ada. As a reward, your programs tend to function earlier correctly once they are compiled. Kind of each time you lose 10 minutes fighting with the compiler, you gain 1 hour not fighting with the debugger. A good deal in the end, but as you say later, it requires some maturity to catch it. > Now, after many years, I started to revisit ADA and I seem to catch on > to it.. but I feel (i know) its mostly due to my own experience and > maturity level.. > So, I have to ask your opinion.. DO you think that the push for > universities to use ADA is a big conspiracy among academicians to kill > the passion of comp. sci in young students who would like to become > software engineers???? I do not see any other reason why.. As far as can see, for the last 20 years universities are rather pushing C and the like, and perhaps precisely because they want to keep their students at the same level they had when entering (which can make a short-term sense, economically, for universities). ______________________________________________________________ Gautier's Ada programming -- http://gautiersblog.blogspot.com/