From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,b2c4d98cbc17f0a9 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Ludovic Brenta Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: A proposal for Debian policy for Ada Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 02:53:05 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <982f31af-6db1-4949-8e62-0efb3c034dd2@o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <87aarzd14c.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <198miwzl97pnl$.1onmpwoadjr1p.dlg@40tude.net> <87632ncxjg.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <9vgayrtxydx3.y97a4jp28sin$.dlg@40tude.net> <821vd91vx3.fsf@stephe-leake.org> <128sk4lf7e74o.exterpadd849$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 153.98.68.197 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1274176385 30446 127.0.0.1 (18 May 2010 09:53:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 09:53:05 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o15g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=153.98.68.197; posting-account=pcLQNgkAAAD9TrXkhkIgiY6-MDtJjIlC User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.6) Gecko/2009012111 Red Hat/3.0.6-1.el5 Firefox/3.0.6,gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:11712 Date: 2010-05-18T02:53:05-07:00 List-Id: Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote on comp.lang.ada: > On Tue, 18 May 2010 04:00:40 -0400, Stephen Leake wrote: >> "Dmitry A. Kazakov" writes: > >>> BTW, is it possible to have one united Ada policy for all Linux >>> distributions? > >> First you have to enumerate "all Linux distributions"; I don't know how >> to do that. > > That's simple: all distributions having GNAT on the list. (In effect GNAT > is the only Linux Ada compiler) You have reduced the problem to a smaller sub-problem but not solved the sub-problem, thereby showing that it is not as "simple" as you claim it is. >>> Linux Ada community is small, all people are known. > >> Known to whom? > > to anybody reading c.l.a? >>> Can't we use this as an advantage here? > >> It might be possible, if we can get everyone together. > >> Certainly Linux distributions that are derived from Debian should simply >> use the Debian Ada policy. > >> We could define "Linux Ada community" as "people who respond to this >> post"; that is at least a practical working definition. I doubt it >> matches reality. > > [Wondering] Is it possible that there exist GNAT distribution maintainers, > who do not read c.l.a? They must be experienced Ada programmers in order to > be able to do that job. There is not that many other Ada resources on the > Web. I would be happy if there were a conspiracy for Ada, driven by some > top secret agents, but a more realistic hypothesis is that "we" indeed know > these people. The Linux Ada community is small but still larger than the comp.lang.ada community; there are many web forums where newbies who have never heard of Usenet ask questions about Ada and GNAT on GNU/ Linux. In the thread "One united Ada policy for all Linux distributions?" I enumerated the GNAT distribution maintainers that I know about; you will see that few of them read comp.lang.ada (of if they do, they are very silent about it). Personally I think they should participate on comp.lang.ada if only occasionally to make their work known. But the fact is they don't. -- Ludovic Brenta.