From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,MSGID_RANDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5dadc78d94298b82 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-02-12 08:36:07 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!newsflash.concordia.ca!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Ted Dennison Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Misconception about Ada? Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 16:15:21 GMT Organization: Deja.com Message-ID: <96926f$7m1$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <3A872501.1186F238@uol.com.br> NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.48.27.130 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon Feb 12 16:15:21 2001 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; WinNT4.0; en-US; 0.7) Gecko/20010109 X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x66.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 204.48.27.130 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDtedennison Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:5177 Date: 2001-02-12T16:15:21+00:00 List-Id: In article , randhol+abuse@pvv.org (Preben Randhol) wrote: > On 11 Feb 2001 18:30:30 -0500, Robert Deininger wrote: > >Speak up, Ada hackers! > > Which is another point. The hacker definition is hopeless in the sense > that all media use it for cracker, so people who do not know more than > what the media writes thinks linux and the like are done buy a bunch > of criminals :-( Anyway one can argue, from the definition of a > hacker, that a cracker is a hacker that is good at breaking into > systems. I learned that term as more like someone who subscribes to the "just make it work" philosophy. As such, it is not a kind term, or a term that would describe most Ada enthusiasts. I think this is the sense from the ninth definition in FOLDOC: ---- 9. (University of Maryland, rare) A programmer who does not understand proper programming techniques and principles and doesn't have a Computer Science degree. Someone who just bangs on the keyboard until something happens. For example, "This program is nothing but spaghetti code. It must have been written by a hacker". --- I did not attend Maryland, but I think I did pick it up at school (Tulane). Is this common usage at other universities? I also use the term "hack" in a similar perjorative sense. The fact that a lot of C programmers use it in a non-perjorative sense always seemed to me to be proof that C is emphasising the wrong things. :-) -- T.E.D. http://www.telepath.com/~dennison/Ted/TED.html Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/