From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5ac12f5a60b1bfe X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Marin David Condic, 407.796.8997, M/S 731-93" Subject: Re: Ada versus PL/I (was: Re: Ariane 5 - not an exception?) Date: 1996/09/04 Message-ID: <96090415434701@psavax.pwfl.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 178603553 sender: Ada programming language comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU x-vms-to: SMTP%"INFO-ADA@VM1.NODAK.EDU" newsgroups: comp.lang.ada x-vms-cc: CONDIC Date: 1996-09-04T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: ++ robin writes: > >> > On the other hand, I would rather see people using PL/I for > >> > a serious project than C. And I have heard there is an effo > >> > to release an Object-oriented version of PL/I in the near > >> > future. That might actually make PL/I a viable alternative > >> > to C++. > >> > >> ---It already is. > > > Not unless if does not explicitly support object-oriented > > programming. And OOP kludges do not count. > >---we'll have to agree to disagree on that. > If by this you mean that PL/I is alread a viable alternative to C++, you may be right. If you mean that OOP can be done in PL/I without the usual requisite encapsulation, polymorphism, inheritance, and other popular buzzwords and that this makes PL/I "object oriented" then there's a problem: By that standard, you could call an assembly language "object oriented" - in which case the term doesn't mean much. Object Oriented Programming can be done in any language - this is true. But that hardly makes PL/I (or Basic, or assembly language, or whatever) a good, or even adequate choice in which to do so. Heck! Even Ada83 was a pretty weak choice for OOP given that you had to pull some pretty ugly stunts to get some of those buzzwords to work as intended. MDC Marin David Condic, Senior Computer Engineer ATT: 407.796.8997 M/S 731-96 Technet: 796.8997 Pratt & Whitney, GESP Fax: 407.796.4669 P.O. Box 109600 Internet: CONDICMA@PWFL.COM West Palm Beach, FL 33410-9600 Internet: CONDIC@FLINET.COM =============================================================================== "That which belongs to another." -- Diogenes, when asked what wine he liked to drink. ===============================================================================