From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.181.12.74 with SMTP id eo10mr189897wid.2.1427491154876; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.140.43.7 with SMTP id d7mr354686qga.17.1427491154237; Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Path: border2.nntp.dca1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!z11no21641658lbi.0!news-out.google.com!vt8ni8lbb.0!nntp.google.com!z11no21641653lbi.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 14:19:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1uy41f4xbza7n$.7txuo2mrlfpf.dlg@40tude.net> Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=84.100.130.26; posting-account=O3LyFwoAAACc1uh60ZcOUmAGdDmGsEcV NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.100.130.26 References: <00d45b3c-0cde-4208-88a9-c79ec8100408@googlegroups.com> <1uy41f4xbza7n$.7txuo2mrlfpf.dlg@40tude.net> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <95b605f1-c8d0-4d1a-b69a-f3aef6e4cc6a@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ada / Automation fellows From: slos Injection-Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 21:19:14 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2015-03-27T14:19:14-07:00 List-Id: Le jeudi 26 mars 2015 16:11:15 UTC+1, Dmitry A. Kazakov a =E9crit=A0: > On Thu, 26 Mar 2015 03:37:40 -0700 (PDT), slos wrote: >=20 > > Feeling alone, I have tried to see if any other fellows were interested= in > > doing automation applications in Ada. > > > > I have only found those guys but I have seen not much on their web site > > and my message in the contact page got no reply : > > http://adaautomation.com/web/ > >=20 > > Are they reading this list ? >=20 > Not much is there. >=20 > > I have also found this interesting paper : > > http://www.ias.uni-stuttgart.de/lehre/praktika/industrialautomation/unt= erlagen/02-ADA-en.pdf >=20 > This is close to what we do, however, our projects are much larger and ha= ve > much more different hardware involved. >=20 > For a PLC, real-time control is not such a big problem as communication > with the outer world while keeping real-time. >=20 > As for GTK, you might find with useful for designing HMI and SCADA: >=20 > http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de/ada/aicwl.htm >=20 > > Anyone working in industrial automation field ? >=20 > I do. We have a middleware written in Ada for dealing with various hardwa= re > under real-time constraints, e.g. EtherCAT, CAN, XCP, iTOT, GPIO etc. > Application is mostly in automotive and energy. Some are embedded some ar= e > not. > =20 > --=20 > Regards, > Dmitry A. Kazakov > http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de Hello Dmitry, We have already discussed about industrial communication. You dislike commu= nication boards and so there is no more to say about this. ;-) For having fiddled around your web site and CV, I believe you that the syst= ems you create in Ada are bigger than the average ones that "Ada for Automa= tion" wishes to address. Of course I have had a try at AICWL which is great software to learn how to= draw with Cairo and GTK+ but I can't imagine someone creating dozens of sy= noptics this way. For dashboards, that's really cool. In some of our products we use this technology : http://www.atvise.com/en/ It's HTML, SVG, JavaScript... and I was impressed by the achievement. And so I was looking for some free alternative and found MBLogic which uses= same web technologies and Python for the logic and web server : http://mblogic.sourceforge.net/index.html I was wondering how to put this on top of AWS and learning how to draw with= Inkscape when Mister Botton came with Gnoga, pushing my wheel further... Gnoga seems to fit perfectly in my project and I guess we can use AICWL whe= n high refresh rate is required for example. I still need to figure out how= to connect easily the GUI, SVG and the logic. Thanks for Simple Components, AICWL and the other cool stuff you have creat= ed and offered to the world. BR, St=E9phane http://slo-ist.fr/ada4autom