From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,d6d0b1dededa8975 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-01-20 10:19:17 PST Path: nntp.gmd.de!newsserver.jvnc.net!nntpserver.pppl.gov!princeton!udel!news.mathworks.com!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.eecs.uic.edu!uicvm.uic.edu!u54294 Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago, ADN Computer Center Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 12:19:17 CST From: Message-ID: <95020.121917U54294@uicvm.uic.edu> Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: "Some" Ada jobs in the Chicago area References: <95011.221727U54294@uicvm.uic.edu> <3f600m$gb4@hops.entertain.com> <3fh1ve$gmj@esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com> Date: 1995-01-20T12:19:17-06:00 List-Id: In article <3fh1ve$gmj@esdmaster.dsd.northrop.com>, hartsoug@bonham.dsd.northrop.com (Hartsough Michael J.) says: >I'm a Software Developer at Northrop-Grumman's Electronics Warfare Systems >Division in Rolling Meadows, Illinois. > >Colin's message was so full of misinformation that I couldn't restrain myself >from responding. ;^) > >My job title is "Engineer Specialist". That's (I believe) one level above Sr. >Programmer and two levels below Unit Manager 1. So I'm not even a quasi-semi- >manager. My salary is at the low end of the scale for my position, and I make >considerably more than 40K (like ~50% more). > >I started here ~2-1/2 years ago. I was living in L.A. at the time. I was given >about 6 flights back to L.A. for my family and me, counting the actual move >and >closing on the L.A. house. > >All of my moving expenses were covered, including storing everything in a >warehouse for 3 months while we waited for escrow to close on our new house. > >Northrop put me up in a nice furnished apartment, rent free for 6 months >(I was granted a 3 month extension to the original 90 days because we were >having trouble selling our L.A. home). A couple of the "new grads" have told >me that they were also provided a furnished apartment, so I guess this >relocation benefit goes all the way down to "entry level". > >I forget the details now, but Northrop also paid my closing costs on both >houses, including Lawyer fees, "Points" on the new mortgage, and I believe >the realtor's commission on the sale of my L.A. home. > > Michael > >p.s. Ordinarily I think these disclaimers are silly, but in this case I'll >make >an exception. The opinions expressed above are solely my own and are not >necessarily those of the Northrop-Grumman corporation. Since I was the original poster for the "Some Ada jobs in Chicago" note, I think I'll reply to this. My reply: Remarkable! Something tells me that the costs incurred above were passed along to the customer, the American taxpayer. No wonder the American military's degree of readiness is slipping while DoD consumes $265 billion per year. And this while defense electronics is downsizing and retooling ;) and thousands of other private-sector programmers and engineers are losing their jobs. I wonder what things were like in 1979-1987, during which time the DoD budget doubled in size? +------------------------------+----------------------------------------+ | "I would have preferred that | Nick Geovanis U54294@uicvm.uic.edu | | you smell of garlic." | Consultant | | Emperor Vespasian, | Technical Support Group, Inc. | | demoting a perfumed | 360 N. Michigan Ave, Suite 1005 | | officer, c. 70 AD. | Chicago, IL. 60601 Tel: 312-704-5100 | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+