From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 2002:a24:8342:: with SMTP id d63mr18303724ite.26.1543232695001; Mon, 26 Nov 2018 03:44:55 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 2002:aca:5395:: with SMTP id h143mr442289oib.6.1543232694769; Mon, 26 Nov 2018 03:44:54 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!news.gegeweb.eu!gegeweb.org!usenet-fr.net!proxad.net!feeder1-2.proxad.net!209.85.166.215.MISMATCH!k10no20777itk.0!news-out.google.com!y103-v6ni34ita.0!nntp.google.com!k10no20774itk.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 03:44:54 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=194.39.218.10; posting-account=3cDqWgoAAAAZXc8D3pDqwa77IryJ2nnY NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.39.218.10 References: <3c3d7301-c0dd-4953-bce1-5ac4050457a8@googlegroups.com> <139fa27c-2f53-4758-81ba-dd403a30e4ef@googlegroups.com> <21e81c06-9352-407d-891c-ec54eed1b249@googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <94e66f34-494b-4aa3-9298-5cc2ca073b26@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: requiring Ada(2020?) in self-driving autonomous automobiles From: Marius Amado-Alves Injection-Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2018 11:44:54 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Xref: reader01.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:54896 Date: 2018-11-26T03:44:54-08:00 List-Id: > Humans can explain things, forget things, do erratic things time to=20 > time. This is how it works with us based on our worldview, moral,=20 > ethics, instincts etc. How would it work with an NN? Well, most likely=20 > it will not. (Dmitry A. Kazakov) Theoretically it is possible with deep networks of the right architecture. = Problem is this right architecture is very hard to find, requires a "deep" = understanding of the theory, and the very few people at this level like Ng,= Hinton, are now "directors" of something, don't create architectures any m= ore. That is now done in a typewriting monkey way by the new machine learni= ng practioners, turning knobs by instinct at best. So, yeah, it will not ha= ppen soon.