From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Andrea Taverna Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 08:06:48 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <91eb0c42-384b-4ff5-93aa-728b2e1762a8@o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com> References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <740ab75d-060d-4628-b8f6-d48056c65bc5@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.47.215.41 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248880008 15945 127.0.0.1 (29 Jul 2009 15:06:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2009 15:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o36g2000vbl.googlegroups.com; posting-host=151.47.215.41; posting-account=q_H03goAAABDwevycEkYzGRVjq5lpBVA User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.1) Gecko/2008071615 Fedora/3.0.1-1.fc9 Firefox/3.0.1,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.scheme:6159 comp.lang.ada:7403 comp.lang.functional:2516 comp.lang.c++:48526 comp.programming:12117 Date: 2009-07-29T08:06:48-07:00 List-Id: On 29 Lug, 09:50, Elena wrote: > Don't forget that you can download a GPLed version of EiffelStudio, > the Eiffel IDE with all bells and whistles from ISE: > > https://www2.eiffel.com/download/download_info.aspx?id=eiffelstudio&i... Already done. It's cool, and compiling it felt like unwrapping birthday gifts. Still, Eiffel libraries are "complex" due to the use of MI and descendant hiding and I couldn't find a good tutorial. Documentation, considering such complexity and the difference between Eiffel and lower-level languages like Ada, M3 and the like, is too scarce. So far Eiffel seems the language I'd hope to code in for other tasks than number crunching, where OO software engineering weights more. Andrea