From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!rpi!think.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!ROO.FIT.EDU!SAHARBAUGH From: SAHARBAUGH@ROO.FIT.EDU Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Ada vs C++, Franz Lisp to the rescue? Message-ID: <9105211321.AA05681@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu> Date: 21 May 91 13:18:00 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet List-Id: I have read with interest the BB conversations about Ada vs C++. I received by mail an advertisement for Franz Lisp. It says, among other things: "if you're trying to develop complicated applications with C++, you're working too hard. It's a good introduction to object- oriented programming, but it doesn't have the built-in functionality of the world's most advanced OOP tool: Allegro CL Common Lisp with CLOS." It goes on to mention Multiple inheritance, custom facilities, persistent storage, object-oriented databases, dynamic redefinition of classess and methods, generic functions and says "(it) is the most powerful object-oriented programming language available today." Vendors are expected to overstate the worth of their product, the legal term is "puffing", BUT are we missing something by not discussing Franz Lisp in the same context as C++ when discussing the "vs Ada" language issue? sam harbaugh saharbaugh@ROO.FIT.EDU -----------