From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 5b1e799cdb,3ef3e78eacf6f938 X-Google-Attributes: gid5b1e799cdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hibou57_=28Yannick_Duch=EAne=29?= Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.modula3,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:31:54 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <90a58868-be18-480d-b17e-07d9af867eb5@a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 77.198.58.105 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1247934720 13057 127.0.0.1 (18 Jul 2009 16:32:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 16:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: a26g2000yqn.googlegroups.com; posting-host=77.198.58.105; posting-account=vrfdLAoAAAAauX_3XwyXEwXCWN3A1l8D User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; fr),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.eiffel:301 comp.lang.ada:7135 comp.lang.modula3:28 comp.programming:11759 Date: 2009-07-18T09:31:54-07:00 List-Id: On 18 juil, 17:50, Ludovic Brenta wrote: > [...]=A0Contrast this to C where > simple parameter passing often requires pointers, and with Eiffel or > Java where everything is a pointer whether you like it or not. There is not such a thing as pointers in Eiffel, there is only references. A reference may be implemented as a pointer, but must not be supposed so. An object in Eiffel, may be instanciated on the local machine, or in a remote mahine over a network, or anything else one may imagine. This is a abstract reference. I was to reply to the original poster as well, but will come back later for that.