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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
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Subject: Re: Professionalism
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Date: Mon, 16-Dec-85 19:24:07 EST
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In article <910@ecsvax.UUCP> dgary@ecsvax.UUCP (D Gary Grady) writes:
>
>You miss the point.  The argument is not against competence or
>professionalism, but against the usual idiot, ineffective efforts aimed
>at ensuring such...  I don't object to the
>end but to the means.
>
>Is anyone really stupid enough to think that sitting in a classroom for
>x number of hours is necessary OR sufficient to learn something?  That
>two people with the same amount of education and experience are
>necessarily even similar in competance?  The only way to determine if
>someone is a competent, conscientious programmer is to look at the
>results of their work,...
>
	An example. I have gotten high ratings on technical
performance and programming skill from every employer I have ever
worked for. I learned programming, and every language I use regularly,
entirely on my own, from reading books and "playing" on computers!
I got my first job from a small firm that was willing to gamble on my
being able to handle the job, I was soon thier top programmer. Formal
training and experience are, at least in my case, almost meaningless.
(I tend to use the same method of learning in all areas of intertest
to me.)

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				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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