From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, score=1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,INVALID_DATE autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: utzoo!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!cs.utexas.edu!tut.cis.ohio-state.edu!ucbvax!coopn1.csc.ti.com!knoll From: knoll@coopn1.csc.ti.com (Ed Knoll @(719)593-3762) Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Usefulness of recent discussions. Message-ID: <9003131645.AA20151@ti.com> Date: 13 Mar 90 16:23:30 GMT Sender: usenet@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU Organization: The Internet List-Id: Bill & Ted (and several other individuals for that matter), Your "discussion" has long since lost any facade of usefulness. It has become as intellectually stimulating as a Miller Lite comercial "less filling - tastes greate - less filling ...". The fact is gentlemen that most of the arguments have never been particularly relevant in comparing the two languages, if such a comparison was even relevant, which it isn't. Most of your arguments have dealt with personnal opinions, compiler problems, management problems, problems with individual usage, features of the language that conscientious engineers avoid anyway, or aspects of the language that users don't have problems with. The fact is, as several insightful individuals have pointed out, the needs of the application and the resources available (hardware, software, people) will determine which language is best suited. For anyone to claim that either language is "better" outside of a specific context is irresponsible. I'm tired of reading this garbage. If you gentlemen want to exchange blows, exchange telephone numbers, distribute them to your supporting camps, and have at it. This whole exchange has only proved that there is still a distinction between coders and engineers - mainly in the amount of responsible behavior one chooses to exercise. If you want to talk about what constructs should be avoided, how constructs should be used, what problems people typcially make and how those should be avoided, which applications either language is better suited for, I encourage you wholeheartedly, but keep this garbage off the wires. Ed Knoll Texas Instruments