Hi again, I got the much sought for links from Preben Randhol. I'll post them here just to ensure that anyone who finds my original query can find the answer here: The article is at http://home.bluemarble.net/~jvolan/WithingProblem/FAQ.html with a link to it at http://www.adapower.com/lang/index.html (at the bottom). Thanks again Preben. Regards, Peter Peter Hend�n wrote: > I've been looking for an article on the "with"-ing problem ...