Hi, I've been looking for an article on the "with"-ing problem (circular with references not allowed) that I found and lost the ref to. It contained (as I recall) a number of work-arounds, and also some suggestions for language changes (along the lines of separate forward declaration specifications). I've been harrassing the search engines and browsing the FAQ's for this for a couple of days now. Anyone with a pointer to this info? Do feel free to e-mail me with the info. Regards and TIA Peter Hend�n http://www.phenden.com/ Teknisk Dokumentation AB http://www.tdab.com