From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: function Is_Open (File : File_Type) return Boolean; :Text_io Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2015 19:26:39 +0100 Organization: cbb software GmbH Message-ID: <8oa3b2zp0rcj$.iv7bvnb8mgiz$.dlg@40tude.net> References: <87twpd2qlo.fsf@theworld.com> <1pj15r7pul7f1.15qgdyrc8k133$.dlg@40tude.net> <87pp0030c1.fsf@theworld.com> <135hiczk56x02.1xixcme8btbl4.dlg@40tude.net> <1dzlgoh4u2j7t$.1un3dfy0oeigd$.dlg@40tude.net> <190shqocxd87d$.1d68ghgqgbvfs$.dlg@40tude.net> <87d1vy3f46.fsf@theworld.com> <7e1b4b17-c769-4aa5-a085-a2ccf2ac75ea@googlegroups.com> <1quu0fn66x4br$.1f1x6de5oto9u$.dlg@40tude.net> Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de NNTP-Posting-Host: j6IQVb9uobzjXrpQLDU2rQ.user.speranza.aioe.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:28118 Date: 2015-10-29T19:26:39+01:00 List-Id: On Thu, 29 Oct 2015 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT), AdaMagica wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 29. Oktober 2015 14:37:47 UTC+1 schrieb Dmitry A. Kazakov: >> Actually there are people in c.l.a. against excessive commenting. > > What is *excessive* commenting? > There is no self-documenting code, nowhere. What about this: if X > 0 then -- When X is positive ... else -- When X is zero or negative ... end if; >> So, according to you >> >> X : Integer; -- Undocumented >> Y : Natural; -- Documented >> >> Don't you find it a bit silly? There is no difference between both. > > No difference? > > No, I don't find this silly. Both document (which word would you use?) a choice, in a way. So, what does not document, then? > Integer: I need positive and negative numbers; I don't care about the range. > Natural: Negative numbers are not allowed. > > type T is range -42 .. +42; -- no difference to Integer according to you? Regarding documentation? None. Neither document anything. They declare types and objects of certain properties, that is. A documentation would refer to the problem space and point out other things that cannot be expressed in the language. My point was that comparing to C's rough equivalent typedef T int; in Ada less documentation would be required, because the language can express more, in particular, the values range, the behavior when the range is violated etc. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de