From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_WORDY autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,577df5d4a0e88785 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2000-12-20 06:27:16 PST Path: supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!nntp.flash.net!news.flash.net!not-for-mail From: "Ken Garlington" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <91b9ma$bne$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A3E36C4.3466A19C@averstar.com> <3A3E5E7E.67817482@acm.org> <91o028$vp2$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <3A3F8E88.317C9FDB@acm.org> <3A40ACF8.9A35BAB8@acm.org> Subject: Re: Bad coding standards X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <8l306.14463$bw.1203427@news.flash.net> Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 14:27:16 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.215.65.193 X-Complaints-To: abuse@flash.net X-Trace: news.flash.net 977322436 216.215.65.193 (Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:27:16 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2000 08:27:16 CST Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net Xref: supernews.google.com comp.lang.ada:3286 Date: 2000-12-20T14:27:16+00:00 List-Id: "Marin David Condic" wrote in message news:3A40ACF8.9A35BAB8@acm.org... : Ken Garlington wrote: : : > My recommendation is to fire the auditors -- or at least, pull the rotten : > teeth. Worked for us. : : Well you don't always have a choice. Either the government is providing them : or maybe you hired a CMM audit firm, etc. We have never had a CMM audit firm do an audit against our coding standards, AFAIK, and I can't think of a KPA that would require that kind of detail. You may want to consider another audit firm. If you have a customer that requires it, that's a different matter -- although, if it's the U.S. Government, and it's a new project, you might want to remind them of their stated policy related to acquisition reform... : The point is, you *said* you were : going to do X and here is a spot where you *didn't* do X and why is that? The : easiest answer is to never *say* you will live up to some specific style : guide. Or to write a style guide saying "choose one of the following, using these criteria as suggestions...", which is exactly what SPC did in some cases. : That is why I would opt for a simpler style guide that is easier to live up to : and maybe use something more complex as just a "recommended reading" and : "suggested practices" for developers. Personally, I think that perverts the idea of the word "guide," but I understand what you're saying. : I don't know if anybody uses the SPC style guide as part of their standard : work procedures. I think it is useful, but like I said - its just too much : detail to want to use it as something you may get audited against. : : MDC : -- : ====================================================================== : Marin David Condic - Quadrus Corporation - http://www.quadruscorp.com/ : Send Replies To: m c o n d i c @ q u a d r u s c o r p . c o m : Visit my web site at: http://www.mcondic.com/ : : "Giving money and power to Government is like giving whiskey : and car keys to teenage boys." : : -- P. J. O'Rourke : ====================================================================== : :