From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FROM_ADDR_WS, INVALID_MSGID,REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,e01bd86884246855 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,fb1663c3ca80b502 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: "Joachim Durchholz" Subject: Re: Interresting thread in comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000/07/16 Message-ID: <8kt18p$36aor$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 647066090 References: <8ipvnj$inc$1@wanadoo.fr> <8j67p8$afd$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <395886DA.CCE008D2@deepthought.com.au> <3958B07B.18A5BB8C@acm.com> <395A0ECA.940560D1@acm.com> <8jd4bb$na7$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jfabb$1d8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <8jhq0m$30u5$1@toralf.uib.no> <8jt4j7$19hpk$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <3963CDDE.3E8FB644@earthlink.net> <8k5alv$1oogm$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> <8kl25k$2q7k0$1@ID-9852.news.cis.dfn.de> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 963774554 3353371 195.190.10.210 (16 [9852]) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Reply-To: "Joachim Durchholz" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel Date: 2000-07-16T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Ken Garlington : > Assuming that the IRS-side contract would have been with respect to range, > as in: > > -- the contract from the IRS side > IRS_write_value (horizontal_bias: INTEGER) is > require > horizontal_bias <= 32767 > do > ... > > ensure > written_value <= 32767 > > end > > and given what the OBC would expect, as in: > > OBC_read_value (void) return INTEGER is > require > do > ... > ensure > read_value <= 32767 > end > > This certainly wouldn't denote any inconsistency as far as I can tell, > particularly since on a MIL-STD-1553 bus it's physically impossible to > violate this contract! You obviously didn't read (or didn't understand) what I wrote about modelling the physical world. It's dead simple: If physical parameters (like a horizontal bias) enter into the specifications, they must be modelled. Assertion modelling need not restrict itself to statements on values inside a program, so in the end you'll get a contract like OBC_read_value: INTEGER is require physical_reality.rocket.horizontal_bias <= some_maximum_value ensure read_value <= 32767 end This is very different from what you write, and clearly spells out what the parameters are. This is my last post on this issue. I have just been crossed by Mr. Meyer and don't wish to defend his thinking in public anymore. Regards, Joachim -- This is not an official statement from my employer or from NICE. Reply-to address changed to discourage unsolicited advertisements.